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Treestand 2018. Follow John Royer as he replaces a double ladder treestand on his property in clarion county Pennsylvania. John shows a unique tool to use to help setup a heavy treestand safely with one person. This will be the treestand John and Danielle will use for the early muzzleloader and archery season and during the pennsyvlania gun deer season.
All right well in September, and it's time to get my tree stands out.
I'd actually would have liked to have them up a little bit earlier, but just so busy with work and other things haven't had time.
But what I'm gonna replace is the double ladder stand it really does blend in there.
It can barely see it, especially when you get over here.
Deer stand right here: you'd, never see us up there, but it's really grown in lots of branches are growing, but I'm gonna trim that out later, but we're just gonna replace the stand here and I got a new one set up so we'll get that this stand has at least my this stands really old.
It's going on probably eight years nine years and never taken down.
It's always out in the elements, so not that it is rusted to the point where it's unsafe, but the shooting bar, which you're not supposed to grab ahold of when you're getting up into these double ladder stands the shooting rail.
But that has become a little flimsy where you can't quite rest a gun on it anymore, because it moves too much.
So I got a new tree stand.
The summit double adder stand and we're gonna, replace that one and I put this somewhere that not really gonna need, maybe for a backup stand, got the old stand down.
The new stand ready to go up and you can see the difference in the shooting light rail.
It rests on the top here where the old shooting rail rested on these little little tiny little in flaps of metal that you can see are starting to bend and I.
Just didn't like that, not that it wasn't safe.
It's just you couldn't put much weight on it over time and you can see that it was starting to bend over time that shooting rail which it would fold up out of your way if you needed to, but this one here is gonna, be resting on here and it's elevated, it's at an angle.
So what I thought pretty cool as I found this and I believe it's by Mayor step and look how easy it's gonna be for me alone to put up a double ladder, stand just by hand cranking this thing around now.
I'll get this thing set up, so I could videotape myself lifting this up and hmm I mean jack, looks like it's gonna, be pretty easy, there's some other parts that go with it that I may not use, but once I get this all set up.
I'll show you we have the winch at chest height.
This tree is about two feet in diameter: it's a pretty good sized tree man, maybe 20 inches in diameter, and that ratchet strap just fit around that tree.
It didn't tighten it too tight, but I got it where it ain't moving and type of moving around too much.
Now it came with these spikes, and you can see how these would actually go up inside like this, and then you would push these down into the ground so that when you're bringing it up, these don't slide coming back to the tree, because you're gonna take this and you're gonna bring this out here, and this is how you're supposed to set this up.
You come around the bottom of this in front through the back up over through this, and then this is what you're gonna tie the hook on to your winch.
Okay, there we got it attached to the tree comes the whole way down here, what's going in the right way laying down, and it should go just above the why that tree- and this is I- believe a 17 I think 17 feet to the foot rail I, think to the platform.
So let's give this a try.
Okay, something I learned real fast I had to tie this with the ratchet straps to keep this from falling, because what would happen is as soon as I would start cranking on it.
The tree stand because the ground is sloped this way and the tree you can see it's not perfectly straight, and so, but I can I can get it the work, because it's worked for the past several years.
Tree doesn't have to be perfectly.
You know straight up and down, but just because of the lay of the land and I I.
Don't want to cut all these branches and stuff out of here to bring it over on to level ground closer to those trees.
I have to come over here where the ground is uneven and it's when I start tightening that up this treestand starts to come up off the ground and it slides down this way.
So I put that ratchet, strap over there to hold it from sliding down.
So we'll see how that works.
Now ha that worked awesome.
That was awesome.
Well, I tell you what once you get about halfway, it really comes easier now.
What it says is not to come the whole way, that's why I walked around and push it up the rest of the way.
One thing is it: we we've had like almost flood light conditions pass through these.
This ground is so soft that the foot pegs were starting to come up out of the ground and slide.
So that's something that you just want to keep an eye on.
I put my foot there just to be safe, as you can see, the strap is loose and it is just leaning, there's no straps on it.
It's just leaning the way it's supposed to up against the tree.
Now, that's not exactly the way I want it.
I actually want it facing more.
This way, the stand so I'm just gonna kind of pick it up and roll it around see.
If we could do that, all right, as you can see, I got it moved around the side of the tree.
What I'm going to do as you can see that this isn't perfectly straight with the tree, so I'm gonna loosen this I'm gonna bring it over so that we can get lined up straight with the tree so that I can get my stabilizer on and use that to pull it tight up against the tree.
So then go up there and put them righteous traps on and I have this I'm gonna tighten up and keep that for a backup.
So all right, we got her strapped all different ways.
Now it's pretty rigid! It's not really going anywhere, so I'll climb up there and get the yeah strap-on and she's pretty secure up there.
Now now, I just gotta go up there and get the other ones and I'm gonna.
Put a lot of ratchet straps on there, so that thing does not move at all.
All right that worked.
Awesome I mean having the extra trees and I was in the woods that would have had more options of anchoring off the things, and you know making sure I have double anchors on a good anchor on here and I lucked.
That on I was able to go up there and get that first strap on and before you actually walk and step on top of the platform.
But this tree stand is only I believe doesn't seem like I'm up here very high and taking it up here.
But it's just the way to lay the land is okay, I believe to the feet, to the bottom of the platform is 17 feet, so I mean I'm from where my old marks were right here, I'm only a couple inches shy.
You can see where the old straps were and stuff, so not much of a difference.
There's a good look at the food plot.
It's growing up so fast! It's unbelievable! What's amazing is! Is that tree stand there used to be on that tree.
The one that's leaning, yeah and look at all the autumn.
All of that have grown out into the field by oh at least 20 feet over the past 10 years and I try to keep most of this stuff knocked down with the brush hog now and then, but I can only do so.
Much I only got so much time.
So I made some pass out around the edges just to keep the brush back and keep it from growing in I came up here earlier in the year and you can see I I tried spraying a lot of this autumn, all up just because I mean I, don't have time to bow it most of the time.
So I just try to spray it and you got to keep on it.
I mean, if you don't.
You know a big giant bushes like that and hey.
It makes great deer habitat, but you know I'd rather see trees growing than brush and like right here in front of me, I got a walnut tree growing, so I throw a lot of walnuts out over the years.
All these pine trees I planted a long time ago and I even threw them walnut trees walnuts all through this property, all over I mean bed full still, my truck bed full and just scatter them all over the place, and so that's been almost 20 years and you can see how much it's grown up.
This used to be just nothing but field and yeah I I'll come back up here.
Probably tomorrow and I'll knock just a couple branches of new growth, so I can get some shots out into that food plot and a lot of this stuff I really want to keep it myself hidden.
So, but this tree stand I love this shoot and rail.
As you can see, the last shooting rail came straight over here over here.
So you, if you wanted the late aim, your gun, you had to drop your head way, love just to get, even because it goes uphill and that's the problem right here.
It goes downhill, so it looks like I'm really really high up and then over here it goes uphill which keeps the deer only.
You know 50 yards away, they're almost eye level, and so that's the only problem with the shooting rail and with any other blind that I've seen, especially if you need to take a shot here, probably knock some of this stuff down, so that you can sit and rest the gun on here to take a shot.
But that's just the way it's gonna have to be so I hope you guys.
Like that little hand, cranked look in the description of the of the video and I should have a link to the Amazon store, where I recommend things for archery snake hunting ice fishin whatever and I have them all categorized.
So, if you guys are wanting to know the products that we're using we're, not really sponsored by anyone, we don't get paid by anyone - not even my summit or anything.
This is just something that I researched and I wanted a newsstand, and this is what I picked, I'm sure, there's probably better ones out there, but I was looking for the price range it fit.
Me was exactly what I was looking for, but again, like I said, if you guys are want to know, I believe it's a mayor step that has that hand-cranked I'm, not sure there could be other ones, but that's the one I got like I said, look in the description and you can find that and so archery videos are gonna be coming out soon.
It's gonna be really really close.
I plan on shoot a deer with about first time since 2011 and then probably take Danielle out for the early muzzleloader season plan on shooting a deer with another old rifle so stay tuned during the second week of rifle season.
Cousins coming up from Florida Brendan be up I, don't know whether I've time to film or not, but we'll just have to see, and then the flintlock season, so I do plan to at least save one tag for late season, make that period, dress, hunt and so I'm, hoping to at least get three or four at least deer down on video and plus you know, during the opening day, Danielle will be here trying to shoot her first buck.
I, usually don't even take the rifle anymore, because I'd, you know, save my buck tag most of the time for late season.
There's a big monster buck out there I'd rather see her shoot it and get her first buck or something so hope you guys enjoyed this video, be sure to LIKE and subscribe and we'll see you come archery season.
Often times 20 feet is the benchmark. This will get you up high enough to be out of direct line of sight for any deer in the area and is not so high that a hunter feels uncomfortable climbing to and getting into the stand safely.Do deer notice ladder stands? ›
With a ladder stand, you are more likely to be in the open than with other stand types because the nature of the design requires that a branch free part of the tree is required. Setting up on the backside of the tree is a big part of assuring that deer won't see you.How does a ladder standoff work? ›
How Does a Stand-Off Work? A stand off attaches to your ladder and keeps your ladder about 50cm / 20" away from the wall giving you lots of space to access the gutter and clear it.Do deer notice tree stands? ›
"It's going to disturb them — especially a mature buck. By doing my work in early spring, it's likely the deer I disturb aren't even the ones that will be living there by the time it's hunting season. And if they are the same deer, they'll get used to that stand."Should I use a ladder standoff? ›
Using a ladder standoff is often a helpful addition to position an extension ladder away from a wall. They are required for safe access for guttering, window and fascia board maintenance and avoid damage to gutters, tiles and window frames.Should you anchor a ladder at the top? ›
Even a good ladder can be a serious safety hazard when used by workers in a dangerous way. OSHA standards require the following safety precautions for ladder use: Ladders shall be placed with a secure footing, even surface when possible, or they shall be tied off at the top, middle, and bottom to prevent slipping.Is 10 ft high enough for a deer stand? ›
A tree stand height of 10 feet will be high enough for killing deer. Other variables such as wind, thermals, cover, and time of year will affect each individual hunting scenario. However, the total height off the ground of a tree stand is completely dependent on the personal preference of the hunter.How long should you leave a tree stand attached to a tree? ›
Take your time and plan every move you make while installing and using an elevated stand. Check your stand carefully prior to each use. Do not leave a stand attached to a tree for more than two weeks. Never exceed the weight limit of your stand or FAS.What is the 1 in 4 rule? ›
For every 4 feet of height, position the base of the ladder 1 foot away from the wall. In other words, the distance between the wall and the base of your ladder should be one quarter of the ladder's height (putting the ladder at a 75° angle).What is the most advised method of securing a ladder? ›
Options for securing ladders
The options are as follows: Tie the ladder to a suitable point, making sure both stiles are tied. Where this is not practical, secure the ladder with an effective ladder stability device. If this is not possible, securely wedge the ladder (eg wedge the stiles against a wall)
Begin securing and stabilizing the ladder from the bottom up (from the footing). Set up your ladder on a firm, level, and stable surface. Secure both the base and top of a ladder to prevent movement. Securing a ladder at the foot does not prevent a side slip at the top.Can deer smell where you've walked? ›
No matter what, if a deer walked by where we had walked, they smelled us.” While he was guiding for more than 20 years at Bent Creek, Norton continued to keep a daily log of deer and hunter activities. “We had a field down near the (Tombigbee) river that just filled up with deer every afternoon,” he said.Why do I shoot high from a treestand? ›
Failure to aim lower on steeply angled shots is a major reason many archers shoot over the top of deer from treestands. In this particular case, a 27 yard shot doesn't make for a very steep angle.Should I sit in my deer stand all day? ›
Deer Move All Day - As a rule of thumb, most hunters know that deer move the most during the mornings and evenings. However, when sitting all day there is an opportunity to see deer throughout the entire day, this is especially true when the rut is in progress.Should a ladder way have a swinging gate? ›
All ladderway floor openings or platforms must be protected by a standard railing except at the entrance to the opening. The passage through the railing, however, must be protected by a swinging gate or offset so that a person cannot walk directly into the opening.What is the OSHA requirement for ladder stand off? ›
Ladder Stand-Off Clearance: 7 Inches
Per OSHA 1910.23(d)(2), the minimum perpendicular distance from the centerline of the steps or rungs, or grab bars, or both, to the nearest permanent object in back of the ladder is 7 inches.
Is it safe to rest my ladders on guttering? The quick answer is no, leaning your ladder against a gutter is not safe.What is the best way to store ladders? ›
Store ladders where they are protected from the weather. Store ladders where people or machinery will not come in contact with it unintentionally. Support ladders horizontally on racks or mount on the walls. To prevent sagging, support ladders every 2 m (6 ft) as shown in the figure.Can you leave a ladder outside? ›
Leave a wooden ladder outdoors and it could be subject to weather damage – especially if untreated. Damp weather causes wood to expand, creating problems in your ladder's overall structure, while high heat can also cause issues.What do hang on treestands require? ›
These simple platforms provide about four square feet of space. They must be hauled into place and secured to the tree with belts or chains. These stands require separate climbing aids such as segmented ladders or climbing sticks.
Pick a tree that is about 15-20 yards off the trail. It should be relatively straight with a few small branches and leaves at the right height to offer some cover. Most hunters prefer to hang treestands around 20 feet off the ground, so that should give you a good starting point.What is a deer's favorite tree? ›
Oak leaves. No tree is more revered in the whitetail world than oaks, of which there are a multitude of types. Oak trees provide an array of food to local whitetails depending on their age and variety, Duren noted. “Red oak seedlings are a favorite browse for deer, while white oak acorns provide a favored mast crop.”Can I pee out of a tree stand while hunting deer? ›
In contrast, peeing from a treestand or ground blind instantly releases several ounces of warm, fresh human odors that could scare nearby prey. Therefore, many hunters refrain from peeing from or near their stands.What attracts deer to your stand? ›
Putting out a mineral or salt attraction is not only a great place to hang your trail cameras, but a way to attract deer to your tree stand location before the hunting season. Deer determine their movement by 3 criteria, ease, security, and social influence.How high is the gutter on a 2 story house? ›
On the other hand, if you have a two-storey house – as the majority of you will do – the average height of your ceilings will almost always be 2.35m. Logically, the distance from the ground up to your eaves will simply be the height of two full rooms, so 2.35m x 2 – which equates to 4.7m.What is not recommended for ladders? ›
Do not place stepladders on boxes, barrels, unstable bases, or on scaffolds to gain additional height. Do not climb the back of a stepladder. Do not push or pull stepladders sideways. Do not use ladders in passageways, doorways, driveways or other locations where a person or vehicle can hit it.What are unsafe ladder positions? ›
Placing the ladder on boxes or pallets to gain height. Climbing the ladder while carrying items. Standing on the very top step or rung when the ladder is too short for the task. Placing an extension ladder at the wrong angle.
Most ladder injuries occur when getting on or off a ladder. To use ladders safely, always maintain three points of contact. That means two hands and one foot or two feet and one hand on the ladder at all times.What do ladder colors mean? ›
Color codes for Aluminum Stepladders and Extension Ladders. RED, 200 lbs, ANSI Code Type III. GREEN, 225 lbs, ANSI Code Type II. BLUE, 250 lbs, ANSI Code Type I. BLACK or ORANGE, 300 lbs, ANSI Code Type IA.Do you face a ladder when climbing up or down? ›
When climbing up or down, always: Face the stepladder. Keep your body centered between side rails. Maintain three-point contact by keeping two hands and one foot, or two feet and one hand on a ladder always.
- Increase risk of injury resulting from falling.
- Can be difficult to carry, especially large portable stands.
- Provide no protection from cold or wind.
- Give little room for movement.
- Cannot move toward game while hunting.
If I am only hunting the afternoon hours during the rut, I often try to settle in 4-6 hours before dark if hunting a heavily wooded cruising location, and closer to 3-4 hours prior to dark if hunting a food source.How many deer stands per 100 acres? ›
As a general rule, hang 3 to 5 tree stands across a 100-acre block of whitetail timber. Spread out those stands to cover as many food sources, travel corridors and staging/bedding thickets as you can, and to have options for hunting all the different winds.How early should you get in your deer stand? ›
Try to be in your stand and ready to go at least an hour before shooting light, which often means leaving the truck a solid 2 hours before shooting light. This gives you time to cool off from that extra-long hike, get your gear ready and let the woods settle back down before the sun peaks over the horizon.Is it better to hunt deer in the morning or afternoon? ›
Early Morning and Late Afternoon
No matter what the conditions, deer move best early of a morning and late of an afternoon. That's when they're wired to move most. It's when their eyesight is most effective. And there are few things that impact this movement, other than hunting pressure.
When the conditions are perfect, sitting in an all day treestand can be anything but, a waste of time. However, if you are sitting in the wrong tree at the wrong time, you will be missing great opportunities somewhere else.Do you need to put water in the tree stand? ›
Watering is critical.
A freshly-cut tree can consume a gallon of water in 24 hours! Fill the tree stand with water and keep it filled. Never let the water level go below the tree's base. Plain water is fine.
Ladder stands are likely the safest option out there, but their mobility factor doesn't rank near the top. They are the most cumbersome to transport and install, but with higher-end models, their comfort is unmatched.How do you hang a long ladder? ›
To hang your ladder vertically, close the side rails together and lock them in place if your ladder has a latch on the side. Hold the ladder upright with the seat at the top. Lift the ladder up and hang the seat of the ladder on top of the hook. Let it down slowly to ensure that your ladder doesn't rip the hook out.How long can a ladder be without a rest platform? ›
Response: 29 CFR 1910.28(b)(9)(ii)(B) requires that ladders equipped with a personal fall protection or a ladder safety system shall have rest platforms provided at maximum intervals of 150 feet (45.7 m).
When a ladder is leaned against a wall, the bottom of the ladder should be one-quarter of the ladder's working length away from the wall. For access to an elevated work surface, extend the top of the ladder three feet above that surface or secure the ladder at its top.What does OSHA say about ladder storage? ›
What should you avoid when storing ladders? Do not hang ladders from rails or rungs. Do not store materials on ladders. Do not store ladders in a way that they might fall on a person, cause a trip or otherwise cause an injury.What do you use to hang a ladder? ›
Store a ladder on the wall by installing ladder storage hooks into the studs of the wall.
Ladders shall not be placed in passageways, doorways, drives, or any locations where they may be pumped or displaced by any other work unless protected by barricades or guards. Ladders shall not be placed in front of a door that opens towards them unless the door is blocked, locked, or guarded.What is the safest angle to mount a ladder against a wall? ›
The correct angle for a ladder is 75 degrees or the 1 in 4 rule. (see figure 6) Again, refer to manufacturers instructions and risk assessment before any set up of a ladder.Is it safe to hang a ladder on the wall? ›
Ladders can fall if stored vertically, so use ladder brackets attached to the wall to secure your ladder. You can purchase these brackets from our website. A rack or wall brackets are useful if you've chosen to store your ladder horizontally. Lock the ladder into place to ensure no unauthorised use.